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		<title>By: Intubation Education &#124; Rogue Medic</title>
		<link>http://roguemedic.com/2010/07/experts-debate-paramedic-intubation-jems-com/#comment-7826</link>
		<dc:creator>Intubation Education &#124; Rogue Medic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 17:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the article I was writing about[1] (Experts Debate Paramedic Intubation) in my post Experts Debate Paramedic Intubation &#8211; JEMS.com, there is a bit of defense of the status quo in intubation and intubation [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the article I was writing about[1] (Experts Debate Paramedic Intubation) in my post Experts Debate Paramedic Intubation &#8211; JEMS.com, there is a bit of defense of the status quo in intubation and intubation [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://roguemedic.com/2010/07/experts-debate-paramedic-intubation-jems-com/#comment-7207</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 03:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work in a busy system that runs about 85,000 calls per year. We don&#039;t have RSI. So if you plan on intubating someone, you have either nasal intubation for the conscious or oral intubation for the obtunded. But even in our system my opportunity to intubate is so infrequent that I know my ability to perform it has wilted to the point where I&#039;m worried that I might cause more harm than good. 

And what&#039;s the first rule of medicine: first do no harm. 

No matter the system, there&#039;s the issue of practice. On real people. In the OR. AND HARDLY ANYONE GETS THIS OPPORTUNITY ONCE OUT OF SCHOOL. Until EMS systems understand that intubation is a perishable skill, and an overrated way to manage the airway given the tremendous risks associated with it, EMS needs to really think about how safe it is.

I agree with you 100% that the aspiration myth is overhyped, overrated, and WAY overblown. I can&#039;t remember the last cardiac arrest patient I saw who didn&#039;t aspirate BEFORE I GOT ON SCENE. What&#039;s the point in intubating then? What&#039;s done is done. I am so tired of hearing that &quot;airway X doesn&#039;t protect against aspiration as effective as intubation.&quot; Please. Look at the structure and design of the LMA supreme, the Combitube, the King. These are actual mechanical barriers that occlude the esophageus. If they did not, the device would not function. There are studies talking about aspiration and alternative airway devices. And as I recall, the risk was nonexistent. They did in fact work to prevent aspiration. 

EMS has far too long held hold of this dream of intubation without ever doing anything to keep the skills sharp. I don&#039;t know if it some &quot;this is what makes us special&quot; thing or what. But if prehospital intubation is to be preserved, so too do the skills necessary to perform it properly. That means regular, structured, and appropriate training to work with real patients.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work in a busy system that runs about 85,000 calls per year. We don&#8217;t have RSI. So if you plan on intubating someone, you have either nasal intubation for the conscious or oral intubation for the obtunded. But even in our system my opportunity to intubate is so infrequent that I know my ability to perform it has wilted to the point where I&#8217;m worried that I might cause more harm than good. </p>
<p>And what&#8217;s the first rule of medicine: first do no harm. </p>
<p>No matter the system, there&#8217;s the issue of practice. On real people. In the OR. AND HARDLY ANYONE GETS THIS OPPORTUNITY ONCE OUT OF SCHOOL. Until EMS systems understand that intubation is a perishable skill, and an overrated way to manage the airway given the tremendous risks associated with it, EMS needs to really think about how safe it is.</p>
<p>I agree with you 100% that the aspiration myth is overhyped, overrated, and WAY overblown. I can&#8217;t remember the last cardiac arrest patient I saw who didn&#8217;t aspirate BEFORE I GOT ON SCENE. What&#8217;s the point in intubating then? What&#8217;s done is done. I am so tired of hearing that &#8220;airway X doesn&#8217;t protect against aspiration as effective as intubation.&#8221; Please. Look at the structure and design of the LMA supreme, the Combitube, the King. These are actual mechanical barriers that occlude the esophageus. If they did not, the device would not function. There are studies talking about aspiration and alternative airway devices. And as I recall, the risk was nonexistent. They did in fact work to prevent aspiration. </p>
<p>EMS has far too long held hold of this dream of intubation without ever doing anything to keep the skills sharp. I don&#8217;t know if it some &#8220;this is what makes us special&#8221; thing or what. But if prehospital intubation is to be preserved, so too do the skills necessary to perform it properly. That means regular, structured, and appropriate training to work with real patients.</p>
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		<title>By: Experts Debate Paramedic Intubation &#8211; Comment from TOTWTYTR &#124; Rogue Medic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Experts Debate Paramedic Intubation &#8211; Comment from TOTWTYTR &#124; Rogue Medic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2010 22:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the comments to Experts Debate Paramedic Intubation &#8211; JEMS.com, there is the following comment from Too Old To Work, Too Young To Retire. Keep in mind that it is [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Astray &#124; Street Watch: Notes of a Paramedic</title>
		<link>http://roguemedic.com/2010/07/experts-debate-paramedic-intubation-jems-com/#comment-2611</link>
		<dc:creator>Astray &#124; Street Watch: Notes of a Paramedic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 15:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] myth and too few of us talk openly about our darker side. (For a truth-teller, read Rogue Medic’s Experts Debate Paramedic Intubation – JEMS.Com commentary in which he, without hyperbole, uses the term “serial killer” to describe a not [...]</description>
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